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		<title>By: Love and Marriage &#124; Dating &#38; Relationships: Kloudiia&#8217;s Kit: Dating Affairs &#187; Archives &#187; Top 10 Women Turn-Ons #4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Love and Marriage &#124; Dating &#38; Relationships: Kloudiia&#8217;s Kit: Dating Affairs &#187; Archives &#187; Top 10 Women Turn-Ons #4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All the talk about generosity, being open-minded and giving compliments so far, I wonder how many menÃ‚Â areÃ‚Â putting it into practice and have gotten some feedback on these new strategies? (orÃ‚Â secretly swearing under their breath in front of the pc while reading these posts. Shouldn&#8217;t be, right? :)) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All the talk about generosity, being open-minded and giving compliments so far, I wonder how many menÃ‚Â areÃ‚Â putting it into practice and have gotten some feedback on these new strategies? (orÃ‚Â secretly swearing under their breath in front of the pc while reading these posts. Shouldn&#8217;t be, right? <img src='http://www.kloudiia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wulfen</title>
		<link>http://www.kloudiia.com/top-10-women-turn-ons-1/comment-page-1#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Wulfen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there!

This tip about generosity is true, though not much important in my opinion (it does not weight much into the global picture, but knowing it can&#039;t hurt). 

I usually don&#039;t take girls to dinners on the first &quot;dates&quot;, I intead engange casual encounters to go have a coffee or go skating, but don&#039;t call it &quot;date&quot;. If there&#039;s a cheap bill (coffees for instance) I offer to pay it, but I usually say stuff like &quot;this one is on me, the beers later are on you&quot; (even if there isn&#039;t going to be any beers later). But in my case, the majority of times the girls want to pay this first bill, and I end up paying the next one (the beers or drinks for instance, or the next coffee the following day).

My global view on this subject is that what you subcommunicate here depends a lot on your frame of intent. Let me explain: if you are showering her with a great dinner in the hopes of sleeping with her, then you&#039;re supplicating and that is *very bad*. However, if you are doing it as a sign of appreciation for her and what she is bringing into your life, then she will value it as a sign of generosity. But beware of the supplicating frame.

My rule of thumb is: cheap (but still very interesting and fun) encounters  before sleeping with the girl, and show generosity *after* sleeping with her. That way I show her I do it out of appreciation and not to get into her pants. Example: as of lately I invited a girl home and cooked a cute dinner, one prepared at home with stuff from the supermarket (10Ã¢â€šÂ¬ *tops*), and I ended up sleeping with her that night. The next night I took her to an awesome restaurant (100Ã¢â€šÂ¬, which is much more than OK for my current level of income). She was delighted since I showed her I appreciated her and I was not trying to get my way with her (obviously!, since I was already in a relationship with her).

Other people can do it different in a less payer-ish way (gosh I hate the term, I am just a man that likes to give ladies good experiences :P) but the whole point is: be generous in a non-supplicative way. If she senses that you&#039;re being generous just because you want to sleep with her, you&#039;re toast (and for a good reason, since pretending is the wrong thing to do).

Rock Hard, Ride Free,

Wulfen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there!</p>
<p>This tip about generosity is true, though not much important in my opinion (it does not weight much into the global picture, but knowing it can&#8217;t hurt). </p>
<p>I usually don&#8217;t take girls to dinners on the first &#8220;dates&#8221;, I intead engange casual encounters to go have a coffee or go skating, but don&#8217;t call it &#8220;date&#8221;. If there&#8217;s a cheap bill (coffees for instance) I offer to pay it, but I usually say stuff like &#8220;this one is on me, the beers later are on you&#8221; (even if there isn&#8217;t going to be any beers later). But in my case, the majority of times the girls want to pay this first bill, and I end up paying the next one (the beers or drinks for instance, or the next coffee the following day).</p>
<p>My global view on this subject is that what you subcommunicate here depends a lot on your frame of intent. Let me explain: if you are showering her with a great dinner in the hopes of sleeping with her, then you&#8217;re supplicating and that is *very bad*. However, if you are doing it as a sign of appreciation for her and what she is bringing into your life, then she will value it as a sign of generosity. But beware of the supplicating frame.</p>
<p>My rule of thumb is: cheap (but still very interesting and fun) encounters  before sleeping with the girl, and show generosity *after* sleeping with her. That way I show her I do it out of appreciation and not to get into her pants. Example: as of lately I invited a girl home and cooked a cute dinner, one prepared at home with stuff from the supermarket (10Ã¢â€šÂ¬ *tops*), and I ended up sleeping with her that night. The next night I took her to an awesome restaurant (100Ã¢â€šÂ¬, which is much more than OK for my current level of income). She was delighted since I showed her I appreciated her and I was not trying to get my way with her (obviously!, since I was already in a relationship with her).</p>
<p>Other people can do it different in a less payer-ish way (gosh I hate the term, I am just a man that likes to give ladies good experiences <img src='http://www.kloudiia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ) but the whole point is: be generous in a non-supplicative way. If she senses that you&#8217;re being generous just because you want to sleep with her, you&#8217;re toast (and for a good reason, since pretending is the wrong thing to do).</p>
<p>Rock Hard, Ride Free,</p>
<p>Wulfen</p>
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		<title>By: Kloudiia</title>
		<link>http://www.kloudiia.com/top-10-women-turn-ons-1/comment-page-1#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>Kloudiia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 06:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AW: Yes you&#039;re right. Both genders have their own wish list, and their own dream guy and gal, that neither each gender can meet up to expectations. That&#039;s why I&#039;m writing this series to zoom in on perhaps the top 10 traits that turn a woman on. 

I will be writing on what turns a man on too after this. So you may like to contribute some of your wish list to me so I can put it up too? ;)

DK: You&#039;re right too! Preferences may change, but if you were actually able to remember it and let her know &quot;hey we were seating at the other end that time&quot; actually makes the difference. See my point? 

What you did is not just on the safe side. It&#039;s a show of gentlemanness! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AW: Yes you&#8217;re right. Both genders have their own wish list, and their own dream guy and gal, that neither each gender can meet up to expectations. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m writing this series to zoom in on perhaps the top 10 traits that turn a woman on. </p>
<p>I will be writing on what turns a man on too after this. So you may like to contribute some of your wish list to me so I can put it up too? <img src='http://www.kloudiia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>DK: You&#8217;re right too! Preferences may change, but if you were actually able to remember it and let her know &#8220;hey we were seating at the other end that time&#8221; actually makes the difference. See my point? </p>
<p>What you did is not just on the safe side. It&#8217;s a show of gentlemanness! <img src='http://www.kloudiia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 05:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But, if it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the first time you brought her there, it shows how sensitive you are by remembering the location she preferred previously.&quot;

I don&#039;t really agree with this actually. A person&#039;s preference (both guys n gals) can change pretty fast. Sometimes there might be a reason for the change, sometimes there isn&#039;t.

To be on the safe side, I usually let the gal enter the restaurant first so that she can choose the sit that she prefer. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But, if it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the first time you brought her there, it shows how sensitive you are by remembering the location she preferred previously.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really agree with this actually. A person&#8217;s preference (both guys n gals) can change pretty fast. Sometimes there might be a reason for the change, sometimes there isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>To be on the safe side, I usually let the gal enter the restaurant first so that she can choose the sit that she prefer. <img src='http://www.kloudiia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: aw</title>
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		<dc:creator>aw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From experience, I observe that when women put up 
&quot;wish lists&quot; in magazines, they tend to be a little bit removed from reality and practicality.

If a guy were to come with a list as well, most women would not be able to meet them all the time either. #1-#10 &quot;dream list&quot; for men would be something like: have big boobs, perky butt, yet skinny/slim waist and arms. Look good all the time, and wear sexy underwear. Laugh at all our jokes. Stroke our ego. Don&#039;t be a needy bitch when your period comes. Don&#039;t buy unnecessary things. Give us sex whenever we want it. Contribute to the household come instead of just spending it. Smell good all the time. Be funny. Make our friends jealous.

Why not just focus on whether the guy has good qualities: honest to you, warm to other, kind-hearted, funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From experience, I observe that when women put up<br />
&#8220;wish lists&#8221; in magazines, they tend to be a little bit removed from reality and practicality.</p>
<p>If a guy were to come with a list as well, most women would not be able to meet them all the time either. #1-#10 &#8220;dream list&#8221; for men would be something like: have big boobs, perky butt, yet skinny/slim waist and arms. Look good all the time, and wear sexy underwear. Laugh at all our jokes. Stroke our ego. Don&#8217;t be a needy bitch when your period comes. Don&#8217;t buy unnecessary things. Give us sex whenever we want it. Contribute to the household come instead of just spending it. Smell good all the time. Be funny. Make our friends jealous.</p>
<p>Why not just focus on whether the guy has good qualities: honest to you, warm to other, kind-hearted, funny.</p>
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